User groups split on Telecom’s request for leniency

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Telecom boss evokes pain caused by XT and Yahoo!Bubble

Telecom’s request for leniency on its operational separation requirements has been met by a cautious 'OK' from TUANZ and definite 'No' from InternetNZ.

In a fourth request for a variation to Operational Separation undertakings agreed to by Telecom and the Labour government in 2006, the incumbent telco has asked that the requirement to migrate 90 percent of its customers to new wholesale broadband services by December 2010 be suspended. In addition, Telecom wants to be let off the requirements to move 17,000 customers over to a new VoIP copper service by the end of the year and to build a new set of wholesale operational support systems.

In a letter to the Minister requesting the latest variation, Telecom CEO Paul Reynolds stated the undertakings will 'place enormous strain on Telecom’s systems and force Telecom and its customers to risk significant service outages, and disruption, to achieve a set of outcomes that may only delay the ship to Ultra Fast Broadband (UFB)'.

He cites Telecom’s issues with rapid migration to the XT Network and the issues faced with the Yahoo!Xtra Bubble services in 2007 as providing 'sobering examples of the pain and disruption service outages can cause to our customers and to New Zealand'.

Reynolds also claims the undertakings are proving more costly than first envisaged and were drawn up before the government’s UFB initiative, which could see Telecom structurally separate.

In a statement today TUANZ accepts Telecom’s concerns about risk of service failure if it is forced to meet the current deadline. “However, we note that Telecom entered the Undertakings willingly in 2006, at which time the deadline was acceptable. If it is given relief, we would not want this to be taken as a signal that the government will grant variations any time there is slippage in a timetable,” says CEO Ernie Newman.

“In respect of Telecom’s undertaking to migrate 17,000 customers onto a new VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) service by December 2010, we see its failure to deliver as being within Telecom itself rather than an industry-wide issue. We can live with some modest extension of time, but do not think this Undertaking is any less valid than when established in 2006.”

Meanwhile InternetNZ “strongly opposes” Telecom’s request for a fourth variation. “Telecom is seeking changes with this Variation request that effectively stops operational separation. The company now argues that the emerging UFB market makes the development of the systems required to give effect to the 2007 separation redundant. They could not be more wrong,” says policy director Jordan Carter in a statement.

He says only if Telecom starts a structural separation process, is it appropriate to renegotiate operational separation. “Such a discussion would need to be done in public and after a transparent policy debate about how to structure the new environment.”

If Telecom does not meet the undertakings on the specified dates it can be subject to penalites of up to $10 million, plus $500,000 each day the breach continues. The telco has already asked for three variations, which have been granted by ICT Minister Steven Joyce following a submission process. Submissions to the latest variation request closed last Friday.
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Telecom Deliver a VoIP service? Firstly, stop with the comments about spelling already, make room for some reasonable debate about the issues at hand. Is the topic of this article "Telecom's request for leniency in written communications"? No...
Secondly, Voice services based on PSTN are reliable... 40 year old technology still out performs VoIP today because we can't get a reliable enough delivery media. You can run PSTN over a piece of wet string. Unfortunately ADSL+VoIP you can't, and thats the best most people are stuck with.
Posted by Rob at 13:47:58 on July 29, 2010

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leniancy no more ... yeah right Just look in the source code, and URL guys - still there!
Posted by Anonymous at 13:55:56 on July 28, 2010

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What voip service? Do telecom even have one? There are plenty from other telcos - VFX, 2talk, iTalk etc but AFAIK there is none from telecom.

How about let them off that, and make them offer naked DSL options since telecom seem to be the only ISP able to offer a half decent service...
Posted by Anonymous at 22:03:00 on July 27, 2010

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Time for regulatory change. It really is time for the regulators - MED and Comcom - to admit that while the undertakings seemed like a good solution two years ago, they are completely wrong now.

UFB in particular has dramatically changed the environment, and to force Telecom to continue with their current cabinetisation program and the introduction of a VoIP over copper network is wrong, not only for Telecom but for the country.

It is time to admit the current regulation is out of place and move quickly to reform it.

Dr Patterson, over to you...


Posted by Markfwd at 9:24:15 on July 27, 2010

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Never mind the apostrophe abuse!! >Come on ... spelling PLEASE !!
Not to mention all the "it's" when they mean "its". Apostrophes with "it's" are to show that it is a contraction of "it is". They should never be used when you are using "its" as a possessive (i.e. "belongs to it") ... Easy way to remember is "his" or "hers" don't take apostrophes. So neither should "its".
This is rapidly becoming the single most common mistake around!
Posted by Anonymous at 17:19:32 on July 26, 2010

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Only if it makes sense The fact is that the sun is not setting on the PSTN as globally it continues to outperform competing new technologies (due to the assets being so old and fully depreciated). Telecom obviously (like the rest of the world) can't make a business case for its PSTN replacement, especially one that's based on copper access technology for a post-UFB FTTN world. Why should our national carrier be forced to deliver a product the world doesn't want and that they can't make any money out of? How is carrying such a lemon on the books going to benefit the consumer? I think TUANZ and InternetNZ are biting off their nose to spite their face.
Posted by Anonymous at 15:59:51 on July 26, 2010

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Look at the big picture I think Telecom has realised that it is now fighting for its life rather than just protecting the monopolist revenue as in past fights.
If you look at everything that is going on:
UFB
RBI
TSO &
Op Sep
They are all connected but all are being dealt with by different arms of Govt and It looks like Telecom are getting their government relations strategy right after two years of being in denial!
The conversation should be about the shape of the market (and Telecom's role in it) and how it will work!
Add in a potential 10 year regulatory holiday with UFB and suddenly there is a glimmer of light and hope for Telecom
So I think Internet NZ are right, we need to see real commitment to structural separation before giving any relief
Posted by Anonymous at 12:52:18 on July 26, 2010

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Telecom's request for leniency NO
Posted by John Logie at 12:24:13 on July 26, 2010

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Separational Stupidity The Government should either force Telecom (or what's effectively left after all the out-sourcing of it's services) to physically split or leave it alone to compete fairly in a world where the sun is setting on it's core PSTN business. The concept of operational separation, to mitigate the PSTN monopoly, is being rendered obsolete by the day and fining Telecom huge amounts (while - maybe - giving it money to put fibre from the cabinets to the home) for failing to comply is rank stupidity!
Posted by Anonymous at 12:18:57 on July 26, 2010

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NO More giving Telecom more wiggle room...... It has to hapen the have had since 2006 to put this into place and what did they do kept on charging like there was NO tomorrow, and made NO changes.

TIMT for Telecom to be held accountable NOW.

Posted by Carl at 12:10:09 on July 26, 2010

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