Public-sector cloud panel appointed

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Major vendors represented on panel; some excluded

The head of the Department of Internal Affairs’ all-of-government operational computing unit, Government Technology Services, expects “robust debate” and valuable conclusions from a supplier panel chosen to advise public-sector organisations on cloud computing trends.
Members of the panel will be Core Technology, Datacom, Datacraft, Fujitsu, Gen-i, Google, Microsoft and Unisys.
DIA chose the panel from 36 respondents to a request for expressions of interest, put out earlier this year.
The panel, referred to by GTS’s Adam Stapleton in an energetic debate on public-sector cloud computing at last month’s Future Perfect conference, will work with representatives of a group of interested government agencies.
Stephen Crombie, general manager of GTS, says the exercise is separate from the infrastructure-as-a-service (IaaS) project, advertised earlier this month, though both involve a group of agencies interested in shared, remote provision of computing services.
Both are part of the government’s overall Common ICT Capability work programme to improve value for money of ICT expenditure and improve service delivery, Crombie says; but “the initiatives are run as separate projects, as they address different agency requirements.”
The IaaS working group represents agencies who wish to “actively explore the prospect of an IaaS model for government; [and/or] obtain a better understanding of the operational, commercial and other potential benefits that an IaaS model could deliver.” says the IaaS “notice of intention”.
These agencies have a particular interest in shared processing, which may not necessarily involve “cloud computing” as commonly understood, says a DIA spokesperson.
The just-appointed supplier panel is seen rather as helping deployment of cloud computing “as a concept”. It will consider such contentious topics as the risks of putting data and processing overseas and guidelines and other measures that can be put in place to minimise this.
Members of the supplier panel will nominate a representative who will be required to attend, in person, a four-hour workshop in Wellington every month, and allocate “time to respond to emails and collate relevant information from within their company”. Panel members will not be paid for their contribution, DIA says.
Each chosen member of the panel “brings excellent thought leadership in cloud computing trends, local expertise, a sound understanding of the policy drivers unique to the public sector and a pragmatic understanding of the commercial aspects of cloud computing”, says Crombie. “I am sure there will be some robust debate leading to sound guidance for New Zealand public sector agencies.”
The absence of HP and IBM from the panel has surprised some, as The Dominion Post's Tom Pullar-Strecker has pointed out.
Comments
Use skilled people as save the money I think we still missed the point. Even with everyone "donating" their time, this type of thing still cost the government (tax payers) and the companies involved a fortune. Why do we not just employ skilled people who make good calls? When and if we need cloud services they will ask for them and then the commercial world can tender to provide it.
Posted by Peter at 14:11:46 on June 23, 2010

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Which agencies will signup? The seats at the table seem to similar in nature. Could probably do with just one of Fujitsu/Datacraft/Unisys although understand why govt would want both Gen-i and Datacom which would leave the door open for open source from the likes of Catalyst or Fronde.

Although Google is in at NZ Post do not believe Google or Microsoft solutions will be good fit for govt agencies in terms of security, functionality and compliance. Also agree with the comment that the cloud should be hosted in NZ, due to the issue of data governance, security and responsiveness.

Agenices will not sign up to this unless they see significant benefits or they are directed to (anyone remeber the GSN). Larger agencies such as Health, Police and Defence will not buy into this due to security issues and complex nature of their networks.

Posted by Henare Howard at 12:03:43 on June 23, 2010

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Data overseas? Fail! The biggest fail about this whole thing, is they still believe to use cloud computing, we need to ship all the Government data off to Microsoft and Google in the USA.

We can, and should, insist of building the NZ Government cloud in NZ.

We should seriously question any moves to do otherwise.
Posted by Ard Righ at 15:33:47 on June 22, 2010

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Land of the long white (virtual) cloud Seems a shame, Don, I agree. Especially considering that this is a great opportunity for domestic businesses: all the infrastructure for "the cloud" is open source (see Google, Amazon, Ubuntu, Eucalyptus etc.) and can be implemented by domestic companies.

Of course, Microsoft will be frantically trying to sell their "me too!" Azure infrastructure - I just hope that NZ Gov't has a good (and transparent - none of the normal "commercial sensitivity" rubbish) business case to when they try to justify their purchases.

The idea of foreign multinationals holding our data, probably overseas (but maybe not, who knows?), is pretty nauseating.
Posted by Dave Lane at 15:13:50 on June 22, 2010

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No open source representatives One disappointing aspect of this selection is that there is no open source perspective on this panel. I know that at least two FLOSS companies applied (including my own, Catalyst IT).

This isn't an issue of sour grapes. We are all volunteering our time for free. It is an issue of very narrow consultation that is taking place and of using panels to exclude views rather than be inclusive.
Posted by DonChristie at 14:36:56 on June 22, 2010

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